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Here is the un-edited, un-cut version of the interview with Pantheon from Resistance Magazine done in early 2001.

1. Hello, it's a great pleasure to be finally interviewing you guys. About as heavy as I get these days is In Flames and Before God, but I can still appreciate the work and talent you guys put into your stuff.

VAUTRIN - Thanks Kamraden, it is an honor to be able to speak our minds and our views about Heathenism and NSBM within your magazine.
RUBEUS - Undoubtedly you have our thanks and gratitude for taking the time to interview us here in your great political and musical magazine.
VOLKH - Thank you! 14/88

2. First, not to put you in a box. How would you guys describe your musical talents?

RUBEUS - As far as talents I think that it would be better judged by others than myself. Me and Vautrin work hard at creating the right atmosphere as we view our music as a sharpened weapon used against the current Zionist leaders of our nation as toll in reawakening the ancient Weltanschauung spirit. We believe White revolution will see the light of day soon enough.
VOLKH - We all work together very well I notice. Sometimes we come up with songs too fast for our own good. I just like smashing the drums and pretending it's a sub-humans skull and everything works out great.

3. How long have you been active as a band, and what is the current line-up?

VAUTRIN - PANTHEON has been around more or less than 7 years, under the name PANTHEON that is. Rubeus and I have known each other for a little over 9 years now. We used to tape trade and correspond with each other quite frequently. It wasn't until '95 or '96 that we actually started to play in PANTHEON (The True Pantheon with Official Releases) together. However, we both had different projects before the conception of PANTHEON. The current line-up, one which will be the final line-up from now on, consists of Rubeus (Vocals, Guitars and Bass) Volkh (Drums) and Vautrin (Guitars and Keyboards).
RUBEUS - I'll have to concur about what Vautrin has stated for the most part.
VOLKH - I'm proud to be here to help out! Hails brothers!

4. I can see that your first album was produced in association with the controversial Fenris Wolf. I speak objectively, so what was your experience like in working with him?

VAUTRIN - Our experience with Fenris Wolf has been nothing but negative. Rubeus had known the guy behind Fenris Wolf from being a former member of W.O.T. We were also in contact with him through other sources. Basically, he has been nothing but problems for us and the movement as a whole. Our debut CD was actually supposed to be released by German's Darker Than Black Records. Due to the legal problems and attacks that they endured from Z.O.G. forces, the debut CD was delayed almost 2 and a half years. It was sent to a pressing plant in early '00 to be pressed but the company had gone "A wall" and basically ripped off the money that was used to press it. The money was fronted to Darker Than Black by none other than the fool from Fenris Wolf. Darker Than Black had a falling out (an un-honorable falling out on the part of F.W.) with Fenris Wolf. D.T.B. had agreed to let F.W. release our debut CD to basically "pay back" the money that was ripped off from the pressing plant. We had nothing but problems with this traitor since then. He started to get really irrational and psychotic. We were still in contact with D.T.B. and we had talked about releasing the CD still under the name "Darker Than Black" but having this idiot pay for it. Unfortunately, he caught word of this from the pressing plant and said he wouldn't pay for it until we removed D.T.B. from the layout. Basically, he just paid for his stupid label to be on the layout. We were the ones that had to deal with the pressing plants. We had to pay half of what it cost to press the CDs because he was missing for 4 weeks (probably the time where he was snitching someone off). When he did show his traitor face again he bitched about paying us back for the CDs. Just "coincidentally" one of our closest comrades was captured by Z.O.G. right after he had been missing for a few weeks…. Hmm, Fucking traitor, that is all I have left to say about this Jüdenrat scum!
RUBEUS - Nathan Zorn Pett is indeed a traitor. I regret the fact I ever trusted this scum and traitor to our race. Unfortunately it is too late now and our debut CD release was released on his treacherous Fenris Wolf label. We are man enough to take the repercussions for our mistakes, so it's just a harsh fact of life we have to deal with. Nate and Fenris Wolf Records should be aware what is coming their way!

5. I also see that you are involved in the Pagan Front. Can you tell us a bit about this?

VAUTRIN - Yes, PANTHEON is a proud member of Pagan Front… It is our duty to cleanse the "metal community" and to spread the word about the Aryan resistance through musical art. Here is a quote from the Pagan Front website: " The Pagan Front is an organization of various independent recordlabel, mail-order, bands, musicians, fanzines and other devoted individuals from the NS Black Metal-Underground. The Pagan Front is supporting the further 'Paganization' of Black Metal. We feel the utter desire to preserve our pre-Christian cultural and religious heritage, by taking back what is ours and by fighting the 'Spiritual Black Death' AKA Judeo-Christianity. Besides, the Pagan Front believes in the traditional ways of Black Metal-Cult now as before. We view Black Metal as archetypal and atavistic expression of White Men's Soul. Thus Black Metal shall not fall victim to the commercialized 'music-business'. Black Metal shall neither be a part of 'Heavy Metal-Community' nor shall it be a 'Trend' for brainless kids. The Pagan Front is a 'Sammlungsbewegung', i.e. a movement that gathers and embraces various currents within the one scene. Every individual that feels connected to the Black Metal-Scene, though with another approach than the usual 'Satanic' one, is our natural ally. Pagan-, Viking-, N.S.-Black Metal... we support every brand of this genre which moves us closer to the major-goal of getting rid of the Christian burden a.k.a. 'Devil-Worship'. As long as Black Metal-bands serve the Christian worldview with being 'evil Satanists', this genre will remain another tool of the Great Conspiracy in order to keep blind and dumb the present youth. Therefore, the Pagan Front is an educational movement in the first line. We will introduce Pagan Virtues & Values to this scene with pushing Pagan bands and bashing Non-Pagan bands. Besides, RADIO WERWOLF and the soon-to-come PF-journal BLUTFAHNE will play their part in promoting Pagan ideas and in educating the Black Metal-Fans worldwide." Pagan Front consists of the bands GONTYNA KRY, ABYSSIC HATE, SWASTYKA, THUNDERBOLT, KATAXU, THOR'S HAMMER, CAPRICORNUS, ABSURD, PANTHEON, DER STURMER and NOKTURNAL MORTUM. Pagan Front labels consist of ANCESTRAL RESEARCH, OLD LEGEND PRODUCTIONS, COMBAT PRODUCTIONS, ANCIENT BLOOD PRODUCTIONS, DARKER THAN BLACK, DARK BLAZE STRONGHOLD, STELLAR WINTER RECORDS, DEAD CHRIST COMMUNE, EASTERN HATE, FRONTIER PRODUCTIONS and HAKENKREUZ PRODUCTIONS.
RUBEUS - Couldn't have said it better myself my warbrother! Sieg heil Pagan Front!

6. I know it's been a while, but are you pleased with the FWR release, and how has the feedback been?

VAUTRIN - We are quite pleased with the release of "Galdur Vikodlaks", except for the awful "Fenris Wolf" logo on it. The response has been quite good so far. However, this CD is actually my least favorite of our releases, the music is good and it is based on NS ideology, but this was still in our "Occult" days somewhat. We have progressed a lot since then, not only musically, but also ideologically and mentally as well.
RUBEUS - The new Pantheon is at least ten times more elite in my opinion. The addition of Volkh on drums has contributed greatly to this renewed fiery spirit and I don't think anyone who likes the early stuff will be disappointed as we have no intentions of being a mainstream black metal band and musically I am certain the rawness will show through.

7. For the untrained ear, perhaps you could tell us a bit about the lyrics, and why the band chooses to sing them the way they do, beyond it being the norm with pagan metal?

RUBEUS - The lyrics can be quite diverse, but they all focus on our heritage and the Aryan Blood struggle whether directly or indirectly. Some of the lyrics are more esoteric and others more blunt. It just depends what kind of lyrics I feel like writing. Most having to do with our pagan past and future. Everything from war, sex, magic, race, blood, rage, death, honor, pride, power, etc. I try to be as creative as possible while focusing on the main issue which is our race and our culture. As well as awakening people to our fight for survival and to give acknowledgement to our superiority. Our might is unconquerable and shall never cease as long as we uphold the ideals of "Iron Will" and "Self determination" to go out their and be motivated for our racial cause. Hail Victory! Speaking for Vautrin he contributes some lyrics as well in the same vein as mine on occasion, so basically lyrics are made by whomever decides to write them. So, far I just happen to have written most of it.

8. What is the level and time commitment that you put into the band thus far? Is it something that you put at the forefront, or do you have other musical/political/spiritual obligations, And where do you plan on going with it?

RUBEUS - Pantheon is foremost and utmost as far as we are concerned. However, we don't overdo it one bit. We have plenty of days off and so forth. We only need a few hours of practice a week. In the old days we would go months without practicing because I lived hundreds of miles away and we were always going through problems of one kind or another. Everything else concerning politics and spirituality and our music is very sacred to us as well, but Pantheon embodies all of this, so I must say that, without Pantheon as my weapon of war I already feel defeated. We are going straight through the hearts of our enemies and we are destroying all falsehoods. Our sword is like a needle popping a balloon or rather the huge mollusks like system of the ZOG when we attack the brain. We not only are prepared to use unyielding propaganda, but our fists and physical might as well as our craftiness with weapons and senses to destroy our foes. We live as warriors and that is what we are! No exceptions! If you won't fight you don't deserve to be white! Ragnarok Storms Rise!88

9. I would like to propose some points that I find many of our readers ask about metal. One of the major complaints I hear from non-metal racialists is that many bands associated with pagan metal are too alienated from the mainstream, and alienate themselves even more by the way they promote themselves (everything in black, Satanic support or allusions, weird lettering on the disc jackets, the vocals, facepaint, decorative swords, etc) and the extreme foreboding sounds that are produced. They also point to what Michael Moynihan pointed out in Lords of Chaos, that being the Suicide Rate for pagan metal shoots through the roof. What would be your response to this?

VAUTRIN - It could also be said as, the members of the "metal community" don't like certain things about the R.A.C./OI! Music as well. I guess it is just a matter of personal tastes. I enjoy the music and the message of a lot of the White Power rock and hardcore bands, but sometimes I do not care for the overly simplistic riffing. Either way, we all share the same common goal… To spread propaganda through musical ideology for the White racial resistance and preservation of our race. While White Power rock and hardcore are reaching out to a broad range of white racialists, the metal community is reaching out to a whole other broad range of white racialists. Together we are strong; our only differences should be our preference of musical tastes. The reason NSBM glorifies such things as war paint and decorative swords, I wouldn't say Satanic, is because this music has the feeling of war. The war of our blood that instills us all. The image fits with the music and the message we are trying to convey. That message is total war against the system, a war against "modern" pop-culture, a war against our enemies. Our music is the soundtrack to battle; therefore we must be prepared for battle. Maybe Rubeus can elaborate on what I am trying to say:
RUBEUS - What Vautrin has now stated has underlined the main points about NSBM and pagan metal. The only thing I would like to add is that our ancient ancestors wore the paint as well. This isn't just some Native American thing or Gothic queer vampire lover thing for those confused about this. I love R.A.C. and oi to death, but there are too many half-wits who do no more for the cause than complain about every other race when they should be doing something other than lying on their couch and emitting flatulent gases. We have to fight together and there are many dedicated warriors in this National Socialist black metal scene. We apologize for any alienation others feel, but it isn't towards our white brothers, but rather the overall typical humanoid scum who would betray their race in a heartbeat. If we work together taking proper steps we will have a true White Revolution. Day by day I see some youth waking up and it makes me feel proud I can help the cause. We have to take our ideals into action, but first we need a firm plan and I believe we can work towards this. Hail the mighty warrior spirit! Wodan id est Furor!

10. Your band is not well disposed to Christianity what are some of the motivations behind this?

VAUTRIN - My main motivation and hatred for Christianity steams from the fact that Christianity was formed from Judaism. As well as 2000 years of oppression the Christians had put upon our ancestors and all their ways of Heathen culture. Being of Northern European decent, my ancestors were Pagan, they knew nothing of the "spiritual black death" or this creed… This religion was forced upon my ancestor's, the ones they didn't kill, converted to Christianity out of fear for their lives. Christianity helped to preserve the Jewish identity, A group of Jews, around the year 100 BC, founded a new sect, that was based on parts of the Talmud as well as their own thoughts and creations. They created a God who could be for all people, not just the Jews. This new sect of Jews became known as the Essenes. They used parts of the Talmud mainly from the book of Isaiah, which later became part of the Christian Old Testament. The Essenes developed books relating to morals and lifestyles. They even claimed to have had a leader who had been killed and then rose from the dead. Their version of Jahweh, a God for all people, not just for the Jews, was the biggest point of difference between the two. These differences with the main Judaism made the Essenes have an openly hostile conflict with their fellow Jews. The Essene ideology was present amongst a small group of Jews, most of whom eventually left Palestine for more receptive ears elsewhere in the Roman Empire. It is clear that the religion, which became known as Christianity, originated in the ideas the Essenes. Mixed with the original Indo-Aryan Zoroastrian based concept of heaven and hell and the story of a leader who was killed and rose from the dead, the Essene religion was reworked and reformulated until it finally became Christianity. Christianity is ultimately formed from Judaism, thus giving a one-word name for our goal of destruction "Judeo-Christianity"…
RUBEUS - I am not here to slander every single Christian as some are racially aware, but the doctrine and religion in itself I find unfitting to the ways of our Aryan ancestors. Rather than elaborate on historically correct facts, which Vautrin has stated, I will just briefly say I cannot see any reason for an "Aryan" to bow down before a "Jew". And this is why not the only reason we are anti-Christian per se, but validated for certain. I detest "Judeo-Christianity" and my feelings on Zionism are already renowned. It just perplexes me that one would allow oneself to bow before an alien god and creed. I'm not here to alienate at all though. Simply stated 0% of NSBM and Pagan metal bands support Christianity though we support the racial ideals 100%. Its liable to offend some fellow "white folks" as far as where we stand and so forth, but we can't budge an inch on our integrity. I view Christianity as a disease and Europe will never rise again. As long as Aryans are still kneeled before the oppressive subjugation of Christ. Heils to the Pagan Front! Its time for our Aryan pagan rebirth!

11. Are any of the band members active practicing pagans?

VAUTRIN - Yes, all of PANTHEON members are practicing pagans. We celebrate holidays such As Yule/Winter Equinox (which the Christians distorted to "Christmas"), Eoster/Spring Equinox (which the Christians distorted to "Easter"), Summer Solstice etc. we usually gather together and perform the ceremonies as well as have a nice feast. We also are practicing Pagans in the way our forefathers intended life to be, with strength, honor and loyalty to our folk.
RUBEUS - We are not only pagan in blood, but in practice. And we believe in awakening our ancient "warspirit" as we fight for the way of the übermenschen.

12. If I could wave my magic wand to make this nation under your control, what changes would you bring about, and what would you keep the same?

VAUTRIN - My first order of duty would be to exterminate the Jews, they are not even worth sending back to their own land of filth. Of course next would follow deportation of the inferior races. We do not need their stinking rot spoiling our lands. Next would be education, not only for the ones who have been manipulated and brainwashed from the Jewish lies, but also all the white children across the land. They are our future and it will be up to them and their duty not to let this kind of over-ruling by Jews and "pop-culture" take the better of our race ever again. Of course we would need leaders to sustain a thriving race and sustenance for our race, but it would be nothing like the government of today.
RUBEUS - Ethnic cleansing and I would evolve the Aryans to the highest plateau of godliness and evolution. Creating the most advanced society ever.

13. I can see that the side of your album cover states that nuclear testing should not cease as a way of disposing humans in rather large quantities. Is this perhaps a streak of nihilism amongst the band members, or just contempt of the masses?

VAUTRIN - First of all PANTHEON has no "nihilist" streak within our ideology what so ever. The decision to put this in the layout was in a way, a tribute. The label that was to originally release the PANTHEON/WAR88 split cassette was Posthumous Productions from Russia. They used this "slogan" on their releases. The guy behind Posthumous Productions was missing for quite sometime, we thought he had either been captured by Z.O.G. or dead. It would turn out later though, that he just turned into a "normal" citizen i.e. traitor. PANTHEON in no way condones the use of Nuclear weapons nor the destruction of our glorious race, but rather as symbolization for the destruction of current attitudes of today. There is too much acceptance of inter-racial breeding, too much acceptance of having low self-esteem about your own race, too much acceptance of current Capitalistic ways. This "slogan" is a symbol of destruction of this way of life, the Jewish way of life. We spit on the Talmud and all their plans to destroy the white race, we will see who the "cattle" is when we send them to the slaughter! Hahahaha
RUBEUS - EM Sakharov once wrote that as a means to attacking the sub-humans scum over there. He was implying that mud races needed to be exterminated through nuclear testing. Therefore it is the only reason we used such a controversial slogan. After that we found out this guy was a sell out.
14. What is your disposition to National Socialism and the current racial struggle in America?

RUBEUS - National Socialism is the only way for our people these days. What other politic combines spirituality with race etc.? It's the only way to be. You have to be proud to be white and free! I must say that everyone in Pantheon is a National Socialist, but not in the same sense as Hitler's party in the 40's. We need to create a better form of National Socialism for the future. It must be an ideology that can bring success for our people. Soon we will triumph if we can all just work together and unite! NSBM forever!

15. What are the plans for the band in the future; any new projects coming up?

VAUTRIN - In spring of '01 will finally be the release of our 2nd full-length CD "Vargrstrike" through Ancestral Research Records. We will also be releasing a MCD called "Pflichterfüllung" on our own label Hakenkreuz Productions. Other than that, we will be releasing a 10"ep called "Ergriffenheit" through Vinland Winds records. We already have material for our 3rd full-length "Draugr's Daug" and our 4th full-length "Krihapentswor"; both will be released in late '01 and middle of '02.
RUBEUS - That about wraps it up. But, also there is a song called "Prettanoi an Taranus" which will be recorded exclusively for "Night and the Fog pt.2" on Darker Than Black Records Australia. And I guess we will be releasing a track called "Gealtach Namh" on the "Smashing the Traitors" comp. on Iron Eagle Division. This comp. exposes some snitches with some hateful R.A.C. and NS bands. On the cover is Nathan Zorn Pett being shot by SS Troopers. The guy who happened to have snitched out Michael Boyd and Hendrik Moebus! And that's all of our plans so far I guess.

16. Okay, thanks for the interview. You can tie it up here if you choose to with your own words….

VAUTRIN - Thanks again for the interview kamraden, it is greatly appreciated. The time is now to fight Aryan brothers! If we can't do it with swords, fists, boots or guns, then we must do it with our intelligence and propaganda! Stay strong, and be proud of your white racial conscious! Victory is ours! Sieg und Heil, Wotan mit uns! 14/88 For more information about National Socialist Black Metal and our struggle, visit http://paganfront.org or write to: Pagan Front (Vinland) P.O. BOX 17713 Tucson, AZ. 85731-7713 U.S.A.
RUBEUS - Thank you very much for this interview brüder!! Hails to all my white people!! 88/14 Meine ehre heisst treue!!!
VOLKH - Slawa 88!

1.What is the history and ideology behind PANTHEON?
PANTHEON was formed in early 1993 after the break-up of a previous band that I and the drummer was in. PANTHEON was formed with the intention to spread hateful propaganda. The original line-up consisted of Sorath (Vocals) Vautrin (Guitars) Rubeus XIII (Bass) and Fumaroth (Drums). We kicked Sorath out of the band due to his lack of contributing any sort of useful or ideological contributions to his lyrics, so Rubeus XIII took over the vocal position and this is when we started to develop our ideologies as a band. We recorded several demos as well as 2 cds with our drummer Fumaroth. Fumaroth is no longer in PANTHEON however, due to ideological differences. The line-up of PANTHEON now consists of myself (Vautrin) on Guitars, Keyboards, Bass and backing vocals, as well as Rubeus XIII on Vocals, Guitars, Bass and Drums. This will be the final line-up of PANTHEON… No additions will be made unless some sort of tour is in front of us (correction: We have now recruited Volkh for drums -Vautrin). We currently have new material for an upcoming MCD entitled "Pflichterfüllung" which will feature 3 new songs entitled "Pflichterfüllung", "Wotanic Star" and "Vautrin's Sang pt.2". This MCD will be released via our own label HAKENKREUZ PRODUCTIONS. As well, we are now currently working on new material for our 3rd CD release entitled "Draugr's Daug" which will be released via ANCESTRAL RESEARCH RECORDS, sometime in the year 2001 or 2002.

2.How are things going with getting your material released thus far?
Vautrin-Well, so far we have been getting our material released throughout various distros etc… We have released several cassettes of PANTHEON material like the PANTHEON-Thangorodrim demo, the PANTHEON/WAR88-Split Cassette and the PANTHEON-Ginnungagap rehearsal cassette. As far as our CD "Galdur Vikodlaks" is concerned, it has yet to see the light of day. Originally it was supposed to be released by German label Darker Than Black. Due to circumstances that D.T.B. endured from Z.O.G. forces, the CD was delayed and was handed over to a comrade in the states to release it under the banner of D.T.B. When the CD was sent off for pressing, the company that was doing the pressing never sent the CDs and basically ripped-off the money that was funded for the release. We have made plans however to get the CD re-pressed and it will see the light of day sooner or later in the next couple of months under the label banner of Darker Than Black Records. For more info visit D.T.B. on the web at http://listen.to/DarkerThanBlack. We have also currently signed a deal with Ancestral Research Records and plan to record our second CD In July titled "Vargrstrike". This release should be out in September of this year. Until "Galdur Vikodlaks" and "Vargrstrike" are released you can contact us if you are interested in the cassettes we have available of PANTHEON material. When the CDs are released, I'm sure you can find them in most label/distros merchandise lists.

3.Are there any side-projects currently being done by PANTHEON members?
Vautrin-Currently no, there are not any projects being done at the moment by PANTHEON members. We have had some projects in the past, but have decided to discontinue them so that we can fully concentrate on PANTHEON material and our label/distro. Some of the projects that we did included my Odinist/Heathen ambient project called BLUTKRIEG. As well as Rubeus has had his projects like ACIREMA, KATHARIA and ALDEBARAN. But there is no need to talk about these projects now since they are all dead projects. Some of the demos of these projects are still available in our distribution list if any one is interested. We just felt that projects were a waste of time and we felt that all our time and dedication would be better concentrated on PANTHEON material. For this is our main focus and our main goal as musicians and as warriors in the cause. PANTHEON material is the ultimate weapon in the face of Judeo-Christian scum!

4.You released a split tape with WAR88, which is quite a notorious band within underground black metal. How did this come into being?
Vautrin-Originally this split cassette was supposed to be released by E.M. Sakharov of Posthumous Productions (Russia). This was an NS underground label, which released cult demos by Russian black metallers FORGOT. He also released a compilation tape called DIKAYA KROV, which featured tracks from FORGOT, ULFHEDNAR, PANTHEON, WAR88 etc… The PANTHEON/WAR88 split was supposed to be the third release of Posthumous Productions. After being in contact with him for awhile, Rubeus sent a copy of a live recording we did shortly before we went to record our CD "Galdur Vikodlaks", this was in December of 1998. He wanted to do a split release with the PANTHEON material and with some WAR88 material that he already had. After awhile, a couple of more letters were exchanged and then the letters stopped. There was no word from E.M. Sakharov, so it was presumed that he was either missing, captured by Z.O.G. forces or perhaps even dead. We do not know and we still do not know. After awhile we got in contact with Gorruth of Stellar Winter Records who was also puzzled about Sakharov's strange disappearance. He had a copy of the PANTHEON/WAR88 split that did not include a cover. We decided to get a hold of the recording and release the split ourselves as a tribute to E.M. Sakharov, and to get this cult underground release out. We designed a new layout and are now distributing the release. We will continue to question the whereabouts of our great comrade, he will not be missed and his efforts within the NSBM movement will not be forgotten.

5.In your latest PANTHEON release, "Galdur Vikodlaks" there seems to be both some nordic as well as satanic influences within the imagery and atmosphere. What is the meaning of the title of this album, and where does the members of PANTHEON stand in terms of spiritual heritage (i.e. Pagan, Satanic, etc.)?
Vautrin-The meaning behind the title "Galdur Vikodlaks" is based on the Slavonic Werewolf cults of yore. Basically the concept behind "Galdur Vikodlaks" is the ritual of the transformation into the vargs. Hymns of deep Aryan consciousness that dwells deep below our white skin. As far as there being any sort of Satanism involved is clearly not the case. I view Satanism as being part of the Judeo-Christian lie. And PANTHEON does not associate with this kind of spiritualism. We do flirt a lot with the occult and occultic topics within the imagery and even message of the music in "Galdur Vikodlaks" as well as our new release "Vargrstrike". But mainly the two remaining members of PANTHEON which are me and Rubeus XIII, have a deep and inner loyalty and respect for our own Ancestral roots which are of Aryan Heathenism and Germanic culture.

6.What is the concept behind "Acirema"?
Vautrin-Basically the concept behind "Acirema" is fairly simple but yet complex at the same time. If you look at America today what do we see? We see an overly populated melting pot slowly becoming a nation of "Mud Race". We see America as being this "Jewish" controlled system based on the Jewdollar and the Jewmedia. Everything that America stands for screams, "Judeo-Christianity." Everything from the brainwashing of the Jewmedia making inter-racial breeding and inter-racial "friendship" acceptable, because of the master plan of the Zionist Occupational Government to destroy our race. Basically, what I am trying to say is that we do not want to be associated with the way that this country is running. We can sit here and try to fight a never ending battle to regain what was once lost on these lands, which is a war that will be close to impossible to achieve due to the Z.O.G. is more powerful, and they have their precious "Dollars" and resources to win inevitable. The war we are fighting is the war against this way of life, of course. But personally, we will be better off in the long run if we educate the Aryan race now, especially the children. This way, if we can teach our children now, and they teach their children and resurgence of Heathenistic culture and beliefs as well as eugenics, etc.. etc.. One day we will have the resources and the power to keep our race alive and bring things back the way they were in the times of our Ancestors. So, what I am trying to say is that "Acirema" is actually "America" spelled backwards. Which is exactly what our ideologies are to this country. I personally like to call this land we reside, at the moment, Vinland. This is what the mighty Norse Vikings called this land 500 years before any Columbus or Amerigo landed on it's shores. "Acirema" is basically the attitude and the ideologies that we share in the opposition of this country's "system". Of course, one day I would like to return to the lands of my Ancestors and Pagan Europe. But until then, I will continue to fight against the system and their Jewish laws and attitudes while I am here, and I will continue to educate our race as much as possible so that one day, our struggles and our efforts weren't for nothing. Just for our race to slowly descend into extinction, this will not happen!

7. What is your opinion on the ideology and actions of the Black Metal scene back in the glory days of the early 90's, and what is happening within the underground now?
Vautrin-My opinion on the actions and ideology's of Black Metal in the early 90's is that during this time it had a true meaning. It had an ideology that was clearly anti-Christian, and it's members consisted of dedicated individuals who would stop at nothing to re-gain their lands and to literally put fear into the oppositions mind. I think if it wasn't for these actions of the Church burnings etc. The Z.O.G. would have not taken this form of expression so seriously. Most of these bands hailing from the starting of the Black Metal "genre" a hate to call it a "scene" and I even hate calling it a "Genre", but "Movement" if you will, were mainly into the "Satanic" thing. Although, I personally am not one for Satanism at this time. I once was into the whole "Satanic" thing, but eventually you learn to realize the connection within "Satanism" and Judeo-Christianity. And you begin to learn about the true meanings of one's spirituality and you become wiser with age. In the underground today, I still see a lot of the Satanic and nihilistic attitudes within. What I would like to see and am starting to see, more of an Heathenistic and educated Aryan's fighting with spirit and loyalty to a movement that means every word they say. I don't want to see Black Metal as how I am seeing mainly, just a trend for kids who make fools of themselves my giving our once true and ideological music a really bad name in a way that the opposition doesn't take what we are doing seriously. I want them to see what we are about, that we are not just a bunch of raccoons playing for entertainment value and to be slowly sucked into their "system" of the their Jewdollar. I would like to see this movement as serious as it can get, that we are an intelligent race that will continue to struggle for our race, while still acknowledging our roots within Black Metal as being the most extreme and useful propaganda we can accomplish.

8.In your term, how does the classical "black metal" attitude of pro-death, anti-human, and anti-morality fit in the National Socialism as it is evolving today?
Vautrin-Well, I still see these things within National Socialism but not in such literal nihilistic meanings of the terms. I see pro-death as being the death of an alien cult known as Judeo-Christianity. A religion that has oppressed and is basically demolishing the way things are naturally supposed to be. I see anti-Human as being against the human "attitudes" of today. The "attitudes" of allowing and subjectively being brainwashed to believe in such things as Judeo-Christianity and accepting inter-racial contact and inhabitance. Humans are an animal, just like any other animal on this planet. Races and different species should not interact with each other. They all have their own territories. Lions don't breed with tigers and lizards don't breed with snakes etc.. etc.. They all stick to their own kind and their own territories. As well should the Human race. Whites shouldn't breed with blacks, and Asians shouldn't breed with Mexicans, etc.. etc.. As well, they should all stick to their own territories/lands and keep their culture and their heritage that is within their race instead of mixing it to a mud and jumbled culture that humanity is becoming today. Obviously, the Aryan race is a superior one and we are the only ones who can see this and actually stand up for this way of life. We will die in battle if we have to, and watch our goals be forever accomplished from the halls of Vallhalla. We cannot let this torture of the natural way of things get in our way any longer.

9.In your opinion what is the meaning behind National Socialism, and what conclusions/inspirations can we draw today from Adolf Hitler's movement in Germany?
Vautrin-I will try to not repeat myself from previous questions, but I feel that the meaning behind National Socialism is that we as Aryans need to rise up against the opposition of ZOG forces. To form a strong alliance with several different organizations including NSBM, Skinhead and other White Rock organizations as well as the Heathen ones. To fight for our white cause and take back what once was ours. To educate to children about the importance of keeping our race alive and to have the utmost honour and loyalty to our lands and to our heritage and culture. I think the inspirations we can draw from Hitler's movement is that something can actually be done, that we don't just have to sit here and watch things go to shit. We can organize our movement much like the one of Hitler's if we only learn to unite! Only unity will allow us to gain the upper hand one day.

10.What sort of NS activities to you take part in?
Vautrin-I am involved with several National Socialist organizations including Pagan Front of Black Metal as well as I contribute to my Germanic roots by co-operating with the Allgermanic Heathen Front. I am also in contact with a few skinhead organizations within my area of Arizona.

11.We heard that an altercation occurred between some niggers and PANTHEON vocalist, Rubeus XIII during Hitler's birthday-what happened?
Vautrin-The Jewish "system" and not wanting to look like a "racist" state is what basically happened. My comrade was merely just expressing his loyality to his race and his heritage by standing out in front of his own house waving his banners in remembrance in honour to the Fuhrer and to his race. An altercation occurred when some niggers approached him. Calling him racist, biggot and any other name that we are called for being proud of our race. The niggers went back to their apartment and grabbed a fire arm then returned to Rubeus. They stated and threatened to shot and kill my comrade. Of course, in protection Rubeus grabbed his gun as well. Several words were exchanged until someone called the Police. When the Police got there the niggers had already hidden their gun and basically told the police that Rubeus started the whole thing and that he was threatening to kill them because they were niggers. Of course the jew-police took the side of the niggers and handcuffed my comrade to a tree and repeatedly asked questions and illegally searched his home and took away his fire-arm. They were trying to get him with a "hate-crime" and basically drove him out of his home, to where he is now no longer living, just because he was honouring and praising his race.

12.Does PANTHEON play many concerts in your local area?
Vautrin-No, we don't play many local shows. We have only played about 3 or 4 shows total during our existence of PANTHEON.

13.We heard that you opened for Black Metal band EMPEROR (now a popular band within the mainstream metal crowd) awhile back-how did it turn out?
Vautrin-Basically we only played this show to get our message across to some people who would truly embrace it. As well EMPEROR was a true favorite of mine back in the days of "Emperor" and "In the Nightside Eclipse". Although, I do not like or approve of the "rock star" attitudes and ideologies of their band today, and I have even expressed these feelings to the band themselves. It was some what of a chance to let them see how Black Metal is still a serious ideology and that National Socialism will prevail against their useless trends, and we wanted to represent our movement as best we could. Also, at this show… the usual "politically correct" owners banned us from ever playing the venue and even discouraged other venues in the area from ever letting us play at these places due to our heiling of our Aryan comrades at the show and our National Socialist propaganda and salutes.

14.What black metal bands/zines/labels do you consider worthy of support?
Vautrin-As far as the National Socialist and Heathenistic black metal bands/zines/labels are concerned, I fully give my support to the following: GONTYNA KRY, GODLESS NORTH, ABSURD, THOR'S HAMMER, KATAXU, GRAVELAND, BURZUM, KRISTALLNACHT, ARYAN BLOOD, ABYSSIC HATE, ELIVAGAR, AMPHIARAUS, THUNDERBOLT, SWASTYKA, TEMNOZOR, WOLFHORD etc… to many bands to mention, FRONTIER PRODUCTIONS, ANCIENT BLOOD PRODUCTIONS, ANCESTRAL RESEARCH RECORDS, RESISTANCE RECORDS, COMBAT RECORDS, SUPREME ART PRODUCTIONS, EASTERN HATE DISTRIBUTION, STELLAR WINTER RECORDS etc.. again to many to list.

15.What are your feelings concerning American National Socialism as practiced by George Lincoln Rockwell's American Nazi party in the 60's as well as the groups today who are openly National Socialism (such as the National Socialist Movement, NSDAP/AO, etc..)?
Vautrin-Any movement or party that practices National Socialism or to further the education and knowledge to my fellow Aryans across the globe have my full support. The only organizations that I have some what of a problem with the Christian idenity type organizations. They as well are being brainwashed into the false lies of Judeo-Christianity and are actually of no use to us until they realize the true meaning of National Socialism and Heathen heritage. Until then, these organizations will get no support from me. They are on the right course, and they will be easier to explain the whole "Judeo-Christian" theory to.

16.We heard that Anti-Human Productions has now changed names and directions, what are your plans with this?
Vautrin-Basically we changed the name because the new name "HAKENKREUZ Productions" better fit with our ideologies and our goals. The name "Anti-Human" was to nihilistic sounding even though the point of the name was not intended to be nihilistic, I explained the meaning of anti-human in an earlier question. So the name change was the first step towards representing ourselves as serious Aryans and National Socialists. People were just viewing our propaganda and our name as kind of nihilistic, which it wasn't at all. Plus most of the releases on Anti-Human were just mere underground recordings of some projects that were packaged very poorly. In our new direction we only plan to release quality and professional 7"eps, cds and cassettes to represent our selves as being completely serious about our ideologies. So far we have plans to release Common Reich zine #2, AMPHIARAUS(Spain) 7"EP, VUIET DE SANGE(Rom) 7"EP and our new MCD from PANTHEON. We also have plans to release a compilation CD from all Pagan Front bands.

17.How do you feel about church-burning?
Vautrin-I view church burnings as a great way to express hatred for Christianity. It makes the ZOG realize as well that we are a force that are serious in our ways, not just a bunch of little kids sitting around their houses yelling "heil hitler" and "sieg heil" but when they step outside it is another story. Which it seems to be the case in a lot of the instances within this movement. The church burnings have been going on long before the ones of early '90s for instance the "the night of broken glass" or "Kristallnacht" which was the destroying and burning of many synagogues in the 2nd world war. We must burn their temples and their synagogues to the ground!!!!

18.What sort of spiritual and ideological texts do you read?
Vautrin-Hmm, I read a lot of different kinds of books mostly dealing with National Socialism and Heathenism. To name a few of the books I am greatly fond of and are the backbone of my beliefs would have to be: Mein Kampf (Adolf Hitler), Might Is Right (Ragnar Redbeard), Occult roots of Nazism, Celtic Wisdom, Northern Magic/Runelore/Futhark/Runecastor's handbook/Book of Troth/9 doors to Midgard (Edred Thorsson), Siege (Mason) and to many others to mention…

19.What do you see interesting happening (if anything) in the Black Metal scene in the US?
Vautrin-Actually, I see nothing interesting happening in the Black Metal scene in the US, just a bunch of "Satanic" and mud-bands. I would like to see more serious and ideological NS bands surface from US, but for now, all I have seen are a few labels and distros, unless there is a band that I am not aware of. There are the many great White rock bands from these lands though that are much more interesting to me than any of these American black metal bands.

20.What are the cities like where PANTHEON resides? Does much confrontation arise between yourself and other inhabitants?
Vautrin-The city were I live is your basic "wanna-be" LA, there is also a lot of drug use around my city and a lot of sub-human activity and idiocy. Basically, I live on the outskirts of my city out in the desert. So I don't have to interact with these people on a daily bases. But for the most part, confrontation only happens when we are Outspoken about our beliefs.

21.What inspired the name "PANTHEON" for your project?
Vautrin-The name "PANTHEON" for this project was inspired from the Pagan meaning of the word, which means the gathering our the whole of the archetypal gods within the Heathen "Pantheon".

22.How should people get in contact with PANTHEON?
Vautrin-For right now, until we secure a PO box, you can contact PANTHEON using electronic mail at: (Vautrin) vader@azstarnet.com(no longer valid, new email is herrvautrin@yahoo.com) or (Rubeus XII) acirema_rubeus@yahoo.com

23.Is there anything you would like to say in closing?
Vautrin- Heils and thanks for the interview in your magazine, good luck to you and all your endeavors. And remember, We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children! Don't be brainwashed by Judeo-Christian ideals! Soon we will take back what was once ours! 88!

Taken from Night and the Fog issue #1